I gave up and gave in

[chani]

There were 5 papers left, I could have carried on an hour more but I was fed up of marking so I quit. I'm going to get up earlier and finish tomorrow morning.

I still rewarded myself with Lost, the first half of the finale at least...

What?  My home, my rules!

So a penny for my thoughts? 

Sorry I couldn't help making that bad pun. If you have seen the episode you know why it is  a pun.

Ok Desmond was his first name...he was Scottish, was in her Majesty's army, went to jail, loved Dickens and loved a certain Penny (I wonder if that Pen tried tapestry while waiting for her lost sailor/soldier...) whose father was a rich and powerful man. He met up with Libby aka Elizabeth who gave him  a huge favour (but still did not sing God Save the Queen!). It kind of makes sense that he returned just after Libby died. I guess that there was only one Elizabeth there.

And Desmond's last name was....Hume!  

So of course Locke and Hume had to team up since David Hume, the 18th century philosopher, was influenced by empiricists like John Locke ! Oh and the real Hume fell out with Jean Jaques Rousseau !

His theories included skepticism and also naturalism. Hume was supposed to be an atheist and at some time has been charged with heresy. But usually he managed to disguise his views especially about religions, and expressed them obliquely in his books (a  coward?) like many other philosophers (like Montesquieu in France). Locke + Hume vs Eko + Charlie makes sense.

The Lost writers do love philosophers. Rousseau, Locke , Hume...Is it me or is there a theme of Enlightment going on?

Speaking of Locke I soooo wanted to comfort him when he cried. Poor baby with his wet green eyes. And I wanted to punch Eko! Meanie !

More trivial thoughts now. Why wasn't Jack shirtless just like Sayid and Sawyer? It would have been easier to check them out and compare the three of them. I like Sawyer's eyes and dimples but I am not too fond of his upper body. I prefer Sayid's shoulders and hairy chest...but I think that Jack's flat belly is nicer than his. Jack kept his top but took the time to remove his socks. So bonus points for going barefoot.

Ahh and there's Jin whose face is so so pretty. I demand regular close-ups of Jin's face.

I should go to bed now...But I wanna see the second half, it's itching.

 

ETA: Ok I just watched the second half of the finale! Couldn't resist!

I really liked Desmond and the finale.

I think he was right when he voiced the idea that the guys in the pearl station watching "our" hatch were also the subject of a psychological experiment. The books they filled obviously were never picked up. Or were there props like the Others' costumes? Were there ever guys in the pearl station ?

The "I think I crashed your plane" was funny and neat.

Looks like his Peneloppe didn't do and undo tapestry after all but was seeking him all that time! Modern women are better than ancient Greek ones! Or was it simply a fantasy, what Desmond would like to believe...that she was still waiting for him ? Who knows?

I loved the idea of the hatch in a  snow tempest (it echoed the joke about snowmen Locke and Desmond shared earlier) and the guys waiting for a signal (a carrot?). Once again a computer was there. It was a nice parallel to the island hatches. They didn't play golf but chess of course! Was the yellow phone a clue?

Henry Gayle was still perfect and the "where's your beard" cracked me up. He's such a boss !

I didn't catch the name of the guy who was in the hatch before Desmond and whom Desmond killed...Can anyone help me? Did we hear his name in Sayid's flashbacks  earlier this season?

Desmond say he was going to save Locke's life. I still haven't figured it out. I have to ponder this and rewatch the episode.

I want Locke to be alive. A season 3 without Locke would be unacceptable!

Tired now...

Comments

[poshcat.livejournal.com]

I'm terrible at picking up clues and puzzling out riddles...but I do know that the guy Desmond killed was also the soldier who made Sayid a torturer in the war. I can only assume it's yet another thread tying every damn one together on that island.

Heh, I had to watch the second part, too, even though that kept me up until midnight. :0)

PS IMHO, Locke is alive...but who knows what strange things have happened to him!

[frenchani.livejournal.com]

Oh last night I couldn't sleep (I shouldn't have watched the second part, I was too excited afterwards!) and I thought of the guy...and then remembered he was in Sayid's flashbacks and could speak Arabic. But what's his name?

[titimar.livejournal.com]

Je ne pense vraiment pas que Locke ou Eko soient morts si ça peut te rassurer. Ce sont vraiment des personnages centraux.

J'ai beaucoup aimé ce finale, même si il y a avait des choses pas toujours très cohérentes.
Mais ce qui me dérange, c'est qu'on a répondu à quelques questions mais qu'il reste encore énormement de choses qu'on ne sait pas, des choses qui datent même de la saison 1. Je comprends que toute la série repose sur un mystère mais je pense qu'avant d'ajouter des questions supplémentaires, ils devraient déjà répondre aux précédentes.

[frenchani.livejournal.com]

J'avoue que le fait de rester "sans réponse" ne me dérange pas du tout car la résoltuion du mystère n'est pas ce qui m'accroche dans la série. En plus je pense que les scénaristes naviguent à vue et qu'ils n'ont pas vraiment plannifié leur truc. En fait je pense même que s'il y avait une solution claire à la question de ce qu'est l'île et ce que sont vraiment ces phénomènes bizarres et Dharma, la série serait finie car ils ne pourraient plus jouer sur ce "flou artistique" qui leur permet de multiplier les symboles, les métaphores et les connections entre les personnages.

[moscow-watcher.livejournal.com]

Je ne lisais ton post avant que je regarde les episodes - mais maintenant je les ai vu et je'ai lis tes pensees avec grand plaisir.

Je ne pense pas que les scenaristes planifient de se debarasser de Locke ou d'Eco. Tout les deux, notamment Locke, sont important personnages. Je trouve tres interessant que c'etait etait Libby (la seule des passagers qu'on a vu dans l'institution psychiatrique avec Hurley), qui a dirigee Desmond dans ce region. Que est-ce qui se passe dans "Normal Again" dimension? :)

Ce qui m'interresse beaucoup - pourquoi Les Autres ont choisi ceux qu'ils ont choisi? Qu'est'ce-qu'il y a de commun chez Jack, Sawyer, Kate and Hurley? Est'ce possible que le choix des scenaristes n'a rien de commun avec "le grand plan" et la seule cause est creation de tension sexuelle entre Jack, Sawyer and Kate?

Moi aussi, j'aime la finale. Mais je doute qu'on va avoir les reponses sur les questions qui nous interessent...

[frenchani.livejournal.com]

Et le second prénom de Desmond est David (comme David Hume le philosophe), comme le mari d'Elizabeth/Libby, et aussi l'ami imaginaire de Hugo s'appelait Dave...

Je ne pense pas non plus que le "mystère" sera résolu, et en fait je ne le souhaite pas. Si les scénaristes "tranchent" en répondant aux questions, ils vont perdre la licence poétique qu'ils ont et qui leur permet de tisser cette toile.

Peut-être que les questions sont plus importantes que les réponses.

[joey-b.livejournal.com]

I think it's Sergeant Buccelli not sure though, and why was he holding a picture of Kate before he dropped off Sayid?

[joey-b.livejournal.com]

no Sergeant Austen is the big dude Buccelli is the other one - oops

[frenchani.livejournal.com]

I think the one who was holding a picture of Kate was her father actually.

[joey-b.livejournal.com]

but I'm sure he was the same dude that was in the hatch!

oh and I also read something about the statue with four toes.
Wasn't there something about a powerful source of energy for the lost continent of Atlantis?

[frenchani.livejournal.com]

No, it's the guy in the hatch was the guy who made Sayid do the torture. Kate's father appeared at the end of the episode in Iraq too, but it isn't the same soldier.

[joey-b.livejournal.com]

oh ok, so the torture man is Kelvin, and Kate's dad was with Kelvin when they dropped off Sayid? but Kelvin is not Kate's dad?

[frenchani.livejournal.com]

Yep the torture man is Kelvin or his twin...except that he wasn't called Kelvin when he was in Iraq.

Kelvin is not Kate's dad.

[joey-b.livejournal.com]

ok right, got that clear now!

Next discussion!.........

Do you believe that Claire is Jack's half sister?

[frenchani.livejournal.com]

I am not sure. Until now the connections between the characters in flashbacks weren't that close.

Maybe the writers only want us to believe it.

[joey-b.livejournal.com]

it was a bit obvious wasn't it. I think my only problem with lost is they put in this subtle little ideas and then they could just leave them, or they could come back to them and make them mean something - either way it's impossible for us to work things out!

[frenchani.livejournal.com]

Yes a bit too obvious.

I don't think they always know where they are going actually, so they keep the options open. Some connections might lead to revelations, others might just work as parallel and echoes.

It's like Locke's father...some people think he might have been the "real Sawyer" since he was a con man. I don't think so because he was a bit too old and I don't see him "doing" women.

[joey-b.livejournal.com]

No Locke is different. I think like Walt is. He feels and understands things more and has faith in the Island. Like Rose.