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chani ([personal profile] chani) wrote2010-09-12 01:41 pm

Pet peeves

It's beyond my control, seeing words being misused makes me cringe and makes me want to write rants and groan. Maybe it's the teacher in me or maybe it's just my love for language ––unless it's merely a character trait –– but I get bothered by things that most people would just overlook.

It isn't that I want to denounce "cuistres" and "pédants", and I know that language evolves and that the meaning of words slips over the time, but I can't help it, I just hate it when words are debased.

I try not to say it on LJ, because it often happens there and  I don't want to sound too picky or hurt my flist, but the frequent (mis) use of "meta" (as "analysis" or "essay on")annoys the hell out of me.

Lately I've been irritated by the use of "science fiction" label that can be seen in many Internet polls or lists around. Everything is science fiction now!

How many times have I seen Buffy The Vampires Slayer show up in a list about sci-fi tv shows*? I'm sorry but Buffy was never a sci-fi series. BSG, Caprica, Farscape, Terminator The Sarah Connor Chronicles, Star Trek, Fringe are sci-fi, not BtVS! Twin Peaks wasn't sci-fi either.

Lost does have a few science fiction elements in it (mostly thanks to Daniel Faraday and Dharma's experiences on time travel) yet I wouldn't call the show sci-fi and its finale, although I didn't like it, pointed it out.

Bram Stocker's Dracula has nothing to do with science fiction (if anything, the character of count Dracula precisely represents a world prior to the XIXth century's science); Stevenson's short story about Dr Jekyll isn't sci-fi either even though it's chemistry (the potion) that brings Mr Hyde out. By the way of contrast, H. G. Wells' books belong to the science fiction category. Nowadays we tend to put all fictional stories that contain or are based on imaginary stuff –– either beings or technologies or alternate universes or dystopia or supernatural elements–– in the same bag.

So what's next? Will Carroll's Alice's Adeventures in Wonderland or More's  Utopia or Homer's The Odyssey be labeled sci-fi some day? What about The Bible?

As you can see, I strongly disagree with Nabokov when he said that Shakespeare's The Tempest should be termed science fiction.

Voltaire's Micromégas was a philosophical tale AND science fiction but Zadig, by the same author, wasn't science fiction, and neither were Charles Perrault's fairy tales, yet they all deal with stuff that did not exist.

Finally, it seems to me that, when we decide to mix-up various genres that contain imaginary stuff, we forget, in the process, that, by definition, everything in a fictional work is the product of imagination, the characters to begin with. In every book or movie or tv show, it's a whole universe that is made up. Art is the science of fiction, but not necessarily science fiction.

But it isn't only a matter of misused words and books or tv shows. I think we live a time of "confusion des genres". It's a plague in our western societies and my biggest pet peeve.

I see it all the time in my job. People mix-up History and Remembrance (and there begins the battle between memories, and the clash of lobbies ensues) or History and Commemoration. Sometimes it's just laziness and ignorance, sometimes it's pure manipulation.

Not only it annoys me, but also I believe it can be dangerous.

*PS: Once more David Lavery's blog shows that I am not alone. That said, The X-Files was a show that did mix up genres, covering its tracks, to the point that it's very difficult to label it. Some episodes were pure sci-fi, others pure fantasy, others pure thriller. As a whole, the series navigated by the stars between sci-fi ocean and conspiracy waters (can I make up a word like conspira-sea?). But its parents, The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits, started with the genre mix-up. Perhaps it's the tv version of the American Melting-Pot.
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[identity profile] kazzy-cee.livejournal.com 2010-09-12 12:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree - I find it very odd that over here the 'Horror' channel has been showing Firefly (which I would class as Science fiction). I think some of the X files would be horror episodes too.

A few quibbles...

[identity profile] shadowkat67.livejournal.com 2010-09-13 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, Buffy did have sci-fi elements in it. Season 4 was pretty much 80% sci-fi, with references to both Clockwork Orange and The Prisoner - classic Sci-Fi shows. It falls into the category of sci-fantasy. Also in the first season - we had sci-fi references such as I Robot/You Girl, and the one about the Prey Mantis. There was TED in S3, along with Bad Eggs (clear reference to the Robert E. Heinlein novel about Body Snatchers - not the better Jack Finney novel) and we had the whole Professor Walsh storyline.

So yes, Buffy did have sci-fi in it. In fact it did the whole human robot thing before BSG did, with both I Was Made to Love You, and Robot Buffy. Warren and Adam were both science fiction villians not gothic horror.

Whedon liked to blend genres - romance/science fiction and horror. Angel the Series also had elements of science fiction in it - with Fred and parallel string theory. I know because I was on a fanboard that had actual scientists play with the science themes in both series.

And most horror falls either within science fiction or fantasy.
I know, because I hated both as a child because I didn't like being scared, it wasn't until Star Wars popped up that I wasn't getting scared by sci-fi and fantasy shows, they always had monsters.

Even Firefly had elements of horror - the Reavers.

So, you can't neatly categorize for all shows. What distinquished Buffy from Twilight, Moonlight, Vampire Diaries, True Blood, etc - is that it contained elements of both gothic fantasy and sci-fi, reinventing the vampire genre as a result, creating a new category known as sci-fantasy with urban sci-fantasy. Granted the science isn't always accurate, but that's true of most tv shows. 90% of the science on Caprica, BSG, Star Trek and Doctor Who is far from accurate.

[identity profile] lizerrrbeathans.livejournal.com 2010-09-13 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Very, very interesting. I was at a Pitchfest in L.A. in early August and of course one of the very first things they wanted to know was the genre.

Cuz, you're right, from a production p.o.v. and a viewer p.o.v. a specific genre will mean securing certain kind of audience. One of my problems is, I write across genres. So, to be honest to the producers, I had to say something like: 'a drama with elements of magical realism...'

I would see the brows pull together as they added that up, but it did put them in expectation of a certain kind of story and it worked. Folks that were interested leaned forward and those that were not leaned back, and I knew right away if I should save us both time and switch to a different pitch. Genre classification means a lot. Especially these days with tight production budgets.

So I understand the value of a clean definition when you can, and I think you also have a point about it becoming potentially dangerous, and I mean for children and young adults. To expect one venue and receive elements of horror intertwined...well, we all know the power of image and how it can seed and impress the mind.

But what do you do if the work honestly crosses genres?

One of the best writers quotes I like in the moment comes from Rowlings, and paraphrased, she says she writes first and foremost for herself. And of course that's why her tales work. She is satisfying her need to heal some element or 'fix' some aspect in the world that disturbs her personally. And because a lot of writers are writing in such a way, that is, from an idiosyncratic point of view, you're gonna find a plethora of mixed and crossed genres in all media.

I’m inserting laughter here, cuz I was submitting one of my books to a contest and the list of genres and sub-genres was impressive. And I’m like...'well, is it more, fantasy or sci fi or visionary fic?'

'Um...about 40% sci fi...ah 20% fantasy and leaves 40% visionary...oops I have a tie between sci fi and visionary.'

See what I mean? Just how do we class things anymore?

One thing is sure (for me) even a 10% element of Horror makes the whole thing Horror in my opinion.

Of course, in television they may be programming the 'wrong' genre to grab whatever built-in audience a certain program may have.

Very interesting. Thanks for detailing your thoughts so well. It was helpful to hear this from your perspective.

[identity profile] lijability.livejournal.com 2010-09-14 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
Well, the whole sci-fi/fantasy/horror genre more or less muddles together. For instance, what do you think Frankenstein was, sci-fi, fantasy or horror? If you could ask an old literature professor of mine, he'd tell you it was pure science fiction. The horror just goes along for the ride.

Buffy in one respect is totally sci-fi, it posits an alternate magic-filled world in which demons, vampires and gods exist, and that there is but one girl in all the world to fight against them. That is sci-fi. Yes, it uses what we see of the world around us in this day and time as true, but BtVS is no less allegorical than the original Star Trek was in its day. A story does not have to project into a future time, deal with unkown/new technology or with outer space to be sci-fi.

However, BtVS deals with xenobiology in one respect, that vampires and earth-bound demons grew up alongside man (after the 'old ones' - the real demons - went away) and that interdimensional places and portals exist, such as the hellmouth. The whole Whedonverse (BtVS & Angel) for that matter is science fiction. And that is why at its heart BtVS is sci-fi. Because rather simply, if you create a new universe, that's sci-fi. Just because it uses elements and themes which are more often than not associated with horror or fantasy in the heart of other writings does not keep BtVS from being science fiction.

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[identity profile] sister-luck.livejournal.com 2010-09-14 03:01 pm (UTC)(link)

When I teach sci-fi (and I usually have a choice between Fahrenheit 451 and Brave New World as the text my students have to read) the question of defining sci-fi is always the starting point. And as you can see, what I have to teach is actually the overlap between sci-fi and dystopian fiction. (A Handmaid's Tale was another of the recent set texts.)

But we always try to define the term and look at different definitions - some of which actually encompass fantasy and horror elements, but for most of my students this doesn't really fit. For them sci-fi = future.

What about Star Wars? They get confused with that, because it has got space ships and robots, but it's set in the past.