I also think that the show didn't help itself with the sideways universe being used so heavily, when ultimately it didn't really service the characters or the plot in the real world at all. I can be totally behind with the concept of the afterlife (even if it isn't quite to my taste) but I think too much time ultimately was expended on something that didn't have enough of a connection to the main plot, but was instead to give the characters a happy ending.
*nods*
Now get out of my head!!! ;- )
Yes the afterlife thing came too late, or the show lasted too much! Also I they wrote themselves into a corner when they created the Jacob/MiB thing and turned the island into the Jacob's place.
I think, though, that this is more a problem of construction and structure rather than what actually happened. I understand your point that you wanted the characters who were still alive to have a proper resolution, but I think the problem there is that there are so many dead characters and I think the show deserved an ending that paid some sort of service to those who were dead. Otherwise from the main castaways, it's only Hurley, Claire, Kate and Sawyer who make it. Which is pretty much of a downer, and I'm not surprised they want to avoid that. So I see the sense in having the concept of the afterlife, even if the structure that lead them to get there caused problems.
True. But you see, it was the structure that I liked the best on Lost, hence my disappointment. And all the religious stuff bothers me.
I don't think it was helped having seen Ashes to Ashes only a few days before, which dealt with the concept of the afterlife in a better fashion and with more internal justification.
Words! Lost pulled out an afterlife thingy out of its hat seemingly at the last minute,undermining the main plot, while Ashes to ashes made the whole show make sense through the final resolution. And I would have the Gene Genie anytime instead of Christian Shepard! The American show makes the characters gather in a Church, the British one leads them to a pub...
This French is obviously more British-oriented!
But I bet that, like you, I will find things that give meaning to the Lost finale eventually. For instance it's interesting to see the kind of fantasy life the characters gave themselves after their death in the limbo. No much change for Kate, but James turned himself into a cop. And Eloïse, she knew the truth even before Desmond started his mission!
By the way it's funny how we manage to redeem a finale with the passing of time. I wasn't that thrilled by "Chosen" first, and then I thought about it and eventually decided it was a good resolution.
And it was far, far, far better than the BSG finale, which still leaves me bitter.
Now that is our biggest disagreement! ;- )
I rewatched it recently and I kinda liked it now. I wouldn't say it's the best finale ever, and it has flaws, but it isn't as disconnected with the whole series as the ending of Lost is.
BTW do you watch Caprica? I would love to discuss Caprica with you! I miss the goold old board times.
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Date: 2010-05-25 05:57 pm (UTC)We actually mostly agree, my dear.
I also think that the show didn't help itself with the sideways universe being used so heavily, when ultimately it didn't really service the characters or the plot in the real world at all. I can be totally behind with the concept of the afterlife (even if it isn't quite to my taste) but I think too much time ultimately was expended on something that didn't have enough of a connection to the main plot, but was instead to give the characters a happy ending.
*nods*
Now get out of my head!!! ;- )
Yes the afterlife thing came too late, or the show lasted too much! Also I they wrote themselves into a corner when they created the Jacob/MiB thing and turned the island into the Jacob's place.
I think, though, that this is more a problem of construction and structure rather than what actually happened. I understand your point that you wanted the characters who were still alive to have a proper resolution, but I think the problem there is that there are so many dead characters and I think the show deserved an ending that paid some sort of service to those who were dead. Otherwise from the main castaways, it's only Hurley, Claire, Kate and Sawyer who make it. Which is pretty much of a downer, and I'm not surprised they want to avoid that. So I see the sense in having the concept of the afterlife, even if the structure that lead them to get there caused problems.
True. But you see, it was the structure that I liked the best on Lost, hence my disappointment. And all the religious stuff bothers me.
I don't think it was helped having seen Ashes to Ashes only a few days before, which dealt with the concept of the afterlife in a better fashion and with more internal justification.
Words! Lost pulled out an afterlife thingy out of its hat seemingly at the last minute,undermining the main plot, while Ashes to ashes made the whole show make sense through the final resolution. And I would have the Gene Genie anytime instead of Christian Shepard!
The American show makes the characters gather in a Church, the British one leads them to a pub...
This French is obviously more British-oriented!
But I bet that, like you, I will find things that give meaning to the Lost finale eventually. For instance it's interesting to see the kind of fantasy life the characters gave themselves after their death in the limbo. No much change for Kate, but James turned himself into a cop. And Eloïse, she knew the truth even before Desmond started his mission!
By the way it's funny how we manage to redeem a finale with the passing of time. I wasn't that thrilled by "Chosen" first, and then I thought about it and eventually decided it was a good resolution.
And it was far, far, far better than the BSG finale, which still leaves me bitter.
Now that is our biggest disagreement! ;- )
I rewatched it recently and I kinda liked it now. I wouldn't say it's the best finale ever, and it has flaws, but it isn't as disconnected with the whole series as the ending of Lost is.
BTW do you watch Caprica? I would love to discuss Caprica with you! I miss the goold old board times.