Buffy found herself madly "in love" and behaved like a silly smitten girl but she still fought with Spike, not letting him make the decisions for the couple, was bossy and warned that she wouldn't stop her job after the wedding etc...and her strength was emphasized by the fact he fought he couldn't fight demons and had to relie on her for security matters. Spike mentioned "girl power" then. Yes . Nods profusely.
I do think that, for a woman, acknowledging your personal sexuality, needs, likes and dislikes–– whether it's a powerful libido or a weaker one whatever–– instead of following what is expected from you by the others(especially those of the male category), is part of female empowerment. You're so right. I didn't even think of that particular aspect of their sexual games. Buffy became a true feminist icon then. In season 7 she regained her feminist status in my eyes , too.
It is possible that I would have found the scenes ridiculous or boring but I doubted I would have been shocked or uncomfortable . from the scans I could see , it was indeed ridiculous and distasteful but not shocking .
As for the comics , it looks bad either way but, there are several issues that may explain the situation.If they're in a thrall , if the both of them are Universe pawns , there's no threat for the feminist status. If Buffy is so "in love" that she prefered to shag the one who had recently killed many of her "sisters" it is quite sad, and I understand that many fans considered it "a fall from feminist grace". I disagree. I'm also too tired to argue.:(
You have pretty and great arguments. And I think we we're on agreement on several points. However you know my answer to you in my own post and I cling to my belief about season 6 ,while accepting different povs.
De toutes façons , "ma" Buffy est quelque part en Europe en train de régler leur compte à des créatures démoniaques, avec un flamboyant et féroce Spike à ses côtés. :-)
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I do think that, for a woman, acknowledging your personal sexuality, needs, likes and dislikes–– whether it's a powerful libido or a weaker one whatever–– instead of following what is expected from you by the others(especially those of the male category), is part of female empowerment. You're so right. I didn't even think of that particular aspect of their sexual games.
Buffy became a true feminist icon then. In season 7 she regained her feminist status in my eyes , too.
It is possible that I would have found the scenes ridiculous or boring but I doubted I would have been shocked or uncomfortable . from the scans I could see , it was indeed ridiculous and distasteful but not shocking .
As for the comics , it looks bad either way but, there are several issues that may explain the situation.If they're in a thrall , if the both of them are Universe pawns , there's no threat for the feminist status.
If Buffy is so "in love" that she prefered to shag the one who had recently killed many of her "sisters" it is quite sad, and I understand that many fans considered it "a fall from feminist grace". I disagree. I'm also too tired to argue.:(
You have pretty and great arguments. And I think we we're on agreement on several points. However you know my answer to you in my own post and I cling to my belief about season 6 ,while accepting different povs.
De toutes façons , "ma" Buffy est quelque part en Europe en train de régler leur compte à des créatures démoniaques, avec un flamboyant et féroce Spike à ses côtés. :-)